Is a 10/10 Sundering Bow String worth it? - Guild Wars Forums

zedboy · Aug 25, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31

I was wondering if a 10/10 Sundering Bow String is worth the trouble (i.e., gold)?

If the string was to be put on a clean max damage Short Bow, would the extra penetration from the string be worth while? Would it stack with Penetrating Attack and Judge's Insight? Would you recommend putting this string on the bows that have inherent 10% armor penetration on them (e.g., Horn Bow, Ivory Bow, Storm Bow) ... or would it benefit more on a faster firing bow like a Half Moon or Short Bow (as mentioned above)?

Thanks in advance!

Eonwe · Aug 25, 2005, 01:44 AM // 01:44

No, it isn't worth it. Zealous or Vampiric ftw.

aB- · Aug 25, 2005, 01:48 AM // 01:48

First of all, a sundering bow string stacks with judge's insight and or penetrating attack. The string itself is quite weak though, as only 10% of the time you will deal 10% more damage. A vampiric bow will always deal 5 extra damage per hit, making it a much better choice damage-wise.

Valerius · Aug 25, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59

i think there worth it... namely for long or storm bows

The Great Al · Aug 25, 2005, 03:25 AM // 03:25

i agree, not worth it

Vilaptca · Aug 25, 2005, 03:35 AM // 03:35

I use it with my Horn Bow, after all, each Ranger should have a variety of bows for different situtations. And there are times when I am not going to need that -HP regen or -Energy regen.

Keep your Zealous or your Vampiric on the bows with the faster rate of fire.

Valerius · Aug 25, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38

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Keep your Zealous or your Vampiric on the bows with the faster rate of fire.

yep... that's what i do

i have a 5:1 vamp and a zealous short bow... a 10/10 sund horn and a 10/10 long

Oni No Arashi · Aug 25, 2005, 03:40 AM // 03:40

Exactly, on the slower bows, sundering strings or elemental strings (esp. With winter in the last missions) can make a world of difference.

I actually prefer my sundering bow to others when in the UW with a trapper, Attaxes seem to not like it that much coupled with a few buffs on the damage.

Lynnrose · Aug 25, 2005, 01:41 PM // 13:41

Sundering strings are trash. Period. No amount of anecdotal "evidence" ("X monster seems not to like it" or "I watch the damage and I can tell it helps") is going to change that. The math is clear and it says a perfect 10/10 string will contribute minimal damage boost. Do a search if you don't believe me . . . this is not a new topic, folks. Put an ebon or shocking string on your pulling bow for less than one plat and put the money you saved towards something more useful. I salvage/sell any 10/8, 10/9, or 10/10 strings I get from drops and think nothing of it other than that I hope when I start playing PvP seriously the guy who bought the string is on the other team.

Vorlin · Aug 25, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Ryun is right, what a 10/10 will do is raise your average damage over time by a very small amount (in 100 hits, 10 will do a bit more damage, take the total extra damage done by these 10 hits and divide by 100 for the average damage per hit increase). It's not a -bad- string, just one of the weaker ones IMO. What's interesting is that so many people seem to think it's the strongest string, I see people trying to sell these for 60k and such. *boggle*

Andy of Glacieria · Aug 25, 2005, 06:12 PM // 18:12

no, it aint. all i can say.

Valerius · Aug 25, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27

personally... i think it's still the best string to have on a longbow or w/e... a bow that u use only to start off battles... of course i'm not gonna have one on my short or halfmoon... but wats so bad about putting it on a longbow? u won't have the degen and just maybe that 1-3 shots u do to start off the battle will be a 10% penetrating hit

Ensign · Aug 25, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Sundering is shit. 100% chance of 10% armor penetration would still be worse than Vampiric. Why would you even think about using a 10% string? Sure, you want a bow without any -pips to hold onto when outside of combat, but at least an elemental bow is conditionally useful against enemies with high physical defense - Sundering is going to be trash in every conceivable combat situation. So are Sundering Bow Strings worth it? Yes, they're worth selling for a ton of gold that can promptly be invested in actually good strings.

Peace,
-CxE

Aug 25, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31	#1
zedboy Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Profession: R/	Is a 10/10 Sundering Bow String worth it? I was wondering if a 10/10 Sundering Bow String is worth the trouble (i.e., gold)? If the string was to be put on a clean max damage Short Bow, would the extra penetration from the string be worth while? Would it stack with Penetrating Attack and Judge's Insight? Would you recommend putting this string on the bows that have inherent 10% armor penetration on them (e.g., Horn Bow, Ivory Bow, Storm Bow) ... or would it benefit more on a faster firing bow like a Half Moon or Short Bow (as mentioned above)? Thanks in advance!

Aug 25, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#13
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Sundering is shit. 100% chance of 10% armor penetration would still be worse than Vampiric. Why would you even think about using a 10% string? Sure, you want a bow without any -pips to hold onto when outside of combat, but at least an elemental bow is conditionally useful against enemies with high physical defense - Sundering is going to be trash in every conceivable combat situation. So are Sundering Bow Strings worth it? Yes, they're worth selling for a ton of gold that can promptly be invested in actually good strings. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Aug 25, 2005, 01:44 AM // 01:44	#2
Eonwe Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Guild: Idiot Savants	No, it isn't worth it. Zealous or Vampiric ftw.

Aug 25, 2005, 01:48 AM // 01:48	#3
aB- Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	First of all, a sundering bow string stacks with judge's insight and or penetrating attack. The string itself is quite weak though, as only 10% of the time you will deal 10% more damage. A vampiric bow will always deal 5 extra damage per hit, making it a much better choice damage-wise.

Aug 25, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59	#4
Valerius Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Profession: R/	i think there worth it... namely for long or storm bows

Aug 25, 2005, 03:25 AM // 03:25	#5
The Great Al Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: ALOA Profession: E/Me	i agree, not worth it

Aug 25, 2005, 03:35 AM // 03:35	#6
Vilaptca Pre-Searing Vanquisher Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	I use it with my Horn Bow, after all, each Ranger should have a variety of bows for different situtations. And there are times when I am not going to need that -HP regen or -Energy regen. Keep your Zealous or your Vampiric on the bows with the faster rate of fire.

Aug 25, 2005, 03:40 AM // 03:40	#8
Oni No Arashi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Puget Sound area, WA State Guild: KnightMare Brigade [KB] Profession: E/R	Exactly, on the slower bows, sundering strings or elemental strings (esp. With winter in the last missions) can make a world of difference. I actually prefer my sundering bow to others when in the UW with a trapper, Attaxes seem to not like it that much coupled with a few buffs on the damage.

Aug 25, 2005, 01:41 PM // 13:41	#9
Lynnrose Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Guild: SoF Victrix [SoF]	Sundering strings are trash. Period. No amount of anecdotal "evidence" ("X monster seems not to like it" or "I watch the damage and I can tell it helps") is going to change that. The math is clear and it says a perfect 10/10 string will contribute minimal damage boost. Do a search if you don't believe me . . . this is not a new topic, folks. Put an ebon or shocking string on your pulling bow for less than one plat and put the money you saved towards something more useful. I salvage/sell any 10/8, 10/9, or 10/10 strings I get from drops and think nothing of it other than that I hope when I start playing PvP seriously the guy who bought the string is on the other team.

Aug 25, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56	#10
Vorlin Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005	Ryun is right, what a 10/10 will do is raise your average damage over time by a very small amount (in 100 hits, 10 will do a bit more damage, take the total extra damage done by these 10 hits and divide by 100 for the average damage per hit increase). It's not a -bad- string, just one of the weaker ones IMO. What's interesting is that so many people seem to think it's the strongest string, I see people trying to sell these for 60k and such. boggle

Aug 25, 2005, 06:12 PM // 18:12	#11
Andy of Glacieria Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: pD-Paladins of the Dark Profession: W/Mo	no, it aint. all i can say.

Aug 25, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27	#12
Valerius Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Profession: R/	personally... i think it's still the best string to have on a longbow or w/e... a bow that u use only to start off battles... of course i'm not gonna have one on my short or halfmoon... but wats so bad about putting it on a longbow? u won't have the degen and just maybe that 1-3 shots u do to start off the battle will be a 10% penetrating hit